Circle of Experts
Join Now!

The Virtual Handshake Blog

4/30/2004

Does Orkut have absolutely no sense of social propriety?

I joined Orkut back on about day 3 after their launch. At the time, knowing several people following the social software / online social networking space, I invited all the ones I knew who weren’t already members… academics, journalists, bloggers, etc. That was back at the end of January.

I’ve been fully unimpressed by Orkut. Like so many social networking sites, particularly those that try to bridge between personal and professional, it has a few interesting ideas, but some major shortcomings when it comes to social propriety, e.g., being asked to rate all your contacts as to how “sexy” or “cool” they are. Since that initial batch of invitations, I haven’t invited other people to Orkut, except at their request.

But this week took the cake. Apparently, Orkut took it upon itself to re-invite all the people I had put in as friends who hadn’t joined yet. Bad enough that they did it. Worse, they did it in my name. That’s right — they resent my original invitation!. 90 days later!

This is horrifying to me. A serious academic in the space and a CEO both were polite enough to reply to me saying they weren’t interested. I have no idea what the various major journalists, etc., must think. I end up coming across as a petulant nuisance, and I don’t even know it’s happening!

Orkut, neither you nor any other social networking services have any right to send something out in my name without explicitly telling me what you’re going to do! There’s nothing on Orkut anywhere that gives any indication that this is going to happen!

Now, to salvage my reputation and credibility, I feel the need to go send personal apologies to the 20-30 people this may have gone out to (and I don’t even know for sure who it went out to or when).

Some sites, thankfully, get it right. LinkedIn, for example, sends a notice after 30 days, in their name (not mine), that the invitation is getting ready to expire.

If I didn’t feel obligated to stay there as an observer, I’d cancel my membership. Get it right, Orkut, if you plan to stick around.

UPDATE: Apparently, Orkut had posted something about this on their news page:

Invitation Problems 4/27/2004

We reported on April 1st that a set of mail problems had been fixed. We have now solved an additional set of issues specifically related to invitations. A large number of invitations that we tried to send in the past either were not delivered correctly, or were unusable. We are now resending those invitations. We have attempted to remove the ones for users who did signup with the service, but there will still be some duplicates.

Hmm… at least this explains it. Still doesn’t make it right. I appreciate them trying to remove the ones who had signed up. But sending the rest of them 90 days later without asking anybody was a bad decision.

There’s a saying: “In business, timing is everything.” What might have been appropriate three months ago isn’t necessarily now. Regardless of the reason for it, Orkut still shouldn’t have sent them out without asking.

9 Comments »

  1. Scott, in the early days of Spoke they also followed this practice. It is why I no longer have a Spoke client on my work station.

    Comment by Dutch Driver — 4/30/2004 @ 6:52 pm

  2. Orkut spams in your name
    After a few quiet months, all of a sudden I’m getting a new spurt of Orkut invitations from friends whose invitations I thought I had already declined. I was wondering why, until I found this explanation on Scott Allen’s weblog:…

    Trackback by Many-to-Many — 5/1/2004 @ 7:25 am

  3. According to the Orkut news page:
    ———————————————————
    Invitation Problems 4/27/2004

    We reported on April 1st that a set of mail problems had been fixed. We have now solved an additional set of issues specifically related to invitations. A large number of invitations that we tried to send in the past either were not delivered correctly, or were unusable. We are now resending those invitations. We have attempted to remove the ones for users who did signup with the service, but there will still be some duplicates.
    ———————————————————
    Personally, I got an IM from a friend who was already on Orkut (and was listed as my friend) saying that he’d gotten an invite from me. We had no clue what was going on or that this was happening to other people.

    Comment by George Hotelling — 5/1/2004 @ 8:38 am

  4. Orkut Reinvites Your Friends Who Didn’t Join
    According to Scott Allen, Orkut has taken it upon themselves to reinvite friends who I originally invited but did not join for one reason or another. I’m posting this mostly because I hope those people will come here first before…

    Trackback by BrainStream — 5/1/2004 @ 9:46 am

  5. You signed up for beta test software and expected it to work perfectly? I think that in that case, you’re the one asking for trouble. There was a technical problem - not a specifically engineered one - and Orkut was doing its best to deal with it.

    Beta test software means it isn’t perfect. If you want perfect software, wait til its out of its test phase.

    Comment by Christopher Schmidt — 5/1/2004 @ 10:41 am

  6. Orkut Reinvites Your Friends Who Didn’t Join
    http://www.thevirtualhandshake.com/blog/2004/04/30/does-orkut-have-absolutely-no-sense-of-social-propriety this is strange. Scott Allen who writes the thevirtualhandshake.com blog is angry coz Orkut has resent his invitations to friends that did …

    Trackback by rtwodtwo — 5/1/2004 @ 11:35 am

  7. I’d love to try Google’s new ORKUT! Can someone send me an invite?I’ll write you a good testimonial. hurls103 at hotmail.com

    Comment by Bry — 5/18/2004 @ 4:57 pm

  8. Maybe someone can invite me to ORKUT!
    I am very eager to join u!
    Thanx!!

    Comment by hah carl — 5/20/2004 @ 6:23 am

  9. Th whole Orkut thing seems like a project to put “elete” folks togeather, ones who do not rub sholders with “little people”.
    How can somthing work when you leave out the people who really do contribute.

    Comment by Skip — 5/22/2004 @ 5:05 pm

RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI

Leave a comment